You wanted us to grow up strong and mature and capable and effective Christians, above all else.
Thank you.
You wanted us to love Jesus more than the world, you wanted to protect us from the failures your experienced at our age.
Thank you.
You wanted the absolute best for us and were willing to put up with the scorn and sidewise glances of your family, your friends, and fellow Christians in order to pursue that better way of life.
Thank you.
You heard of a program that promised all these things, and more, and you listened to a man who cited scripture after scripture and story after story supporting his teachings which, he promised, if followed, would raise up your children in the way they should go, and ensure that we would not depart from it.
Now it turns out you and so many, many others, were deceived.
Being deceived isn’t a particularly horrible thing. Lots and lots of people are deceived every day: Even good people, especially well-meaning people.
Right now what matters most isn’t that you were deceived, what matters most is what you do about it, right now, and going forward.
I was deceived too. I bought into the falsely applied scriptures and the trite stories even harder than my parents did. I had moral volition, a mind and will of my own, and the responsibility to live and die by my own choices, and I, the child, made the choice just as surely as you, the parents, did.
Please don’t beat yourself up over this. It is good to feel responsible, but let that responsibility drive you to reexamine, to reassess, to dig deeper into those things you were taught and believed and compare them honestly against a true interpretation of scripture rather than the stretched, abused, and tortured definitions used to support the deception. Use the responsibility to progress, to live and learn. Thank God you learned it was a lie before it was too late. After all, now you still have a chance to do what you can to retrain yourself, your own heart, your own mind, and our minds and hearts as well. That is grace. That is a gift from God.
But wait, you say, I was not deceived. There are people who are out to smear and slander God’s anointed, and they are crawling out from under the rocks of their own sin to do so.
Yes, yes you were.
There are many different problems surrounding Bill Gothard, IBLP, and ATI. There are theological issues born out of Bill Gothard’s misinterpretation of the scriptures, misapplied reasoning, and apparent interest more in preserving his own authority and correctness than in actually knowing Christ more. There are organizational issues caused, apparently, by the same concern for his own authority and gain as the theological issues. There are relational issues, repeated emotional abuse of people under their authority, a complete lack of accountability (who does Gothard answer to, who can speak wisdom into his life?), silencing of any and all questions and dissent of any sort within the leadership and workers of the ministry, blackballing of those who left the ministry. The list goes on, and most of these items are specifically and explicitly proven and documented, and not just by malcontents and rebels.
I won’t bore you with details of each and every offense when others have done so more thoroughly than I ever could. Instead, I will focus on the theological issues because I believe these are closer to the root of the problem than some of the other issues might.
First, Gothard has a crippled definition of grace that requires him to work out his own salvation, through his own effort, and by his own goodness. While the specific wording has changed over the years, Gothard still defines grace primarily as the “desire and power to do God’s will.” This makes grace into an impersonal force, a resource, something of God’s that we take (Gothard uses the verb “appropriate”), and nothing could be further from the truth. Grace is not a resource we take, but a characteristic of God that He gives us as evidence of His great love for us. When it is something we take, the onus and the glory are ours (Freudian or not, themes running subtly towards personal glory reveal themselves repeatedly in Gothard’s teachings), but when it is something God gives, the glory is His, as it ever ought to be.
Second, Gothard’s twisted conception of authority, the second of his foundational “seven basic principles”, is used to prop up his own unquestionable person, to blackball those who question or criticize him or those he favors, and interestingly enough, when applied completely, claims that Jesus was a sinner. Gothard teaches the principle of authority as one of the most important aspects of proper Christian living, necessary for experiencing any blessing. This is also the very first of the principles I began to question, and it began while I lived and worked at the IBLP HQ. Bill Gothard puts huge importance and weight into authority. It may be the second basic principle, but among those he lives closest to, the staff and workers at the various training centers, it is THE primary principle governing all aspects of their lives, down to a ridiculous level of minutiae. While working at the IBLP HQ I was rather oblivious to many things, but I did notice that Gothard does not attend any one church with any regularity. He regularly travels on the weekends, which accounts for some of his absence, but not all of it. He was ordained many years ago by La Grange Bible Church, just a few miles from HQ, and I believe his membership is still technically there, but from my observation, he was hardly ever there. When the Midwest Christian Outreach, a cult awareness ministry that has researched IBLP and ATI extensively, sought a meeting to resolve issues they had with Gothard’s teachings and requested that his pastor attend as a counselor to him, the pastor of La Grange Bible refused stating that Mr Gothard had not been under the authority of that church for many years.
Even before I lived at IBLP headquarters I’d been aware that in previous scandals, when the IBLP Board had requested that Gothard step down due to his involvement in the scandals, he’d been able to effectively disband the board and resume absolute control of the ministry. He had no pastor investing wisdom and counsel in his personal life, and no board that could invest wisdom and counsel into the ministry, so whose authority was he under? God did not design humans to function well outside an interdependent structure of authority. Where there is no accountability small problems become big problems, and big problems become scandals, and people are hurt, physically and spiritually. Mr Gothard was not under authority himself, refused to submit himself to any authority besides himself, and I knew very quickly that this particular teaching was suspect.
Gothard’s teaching on authority sounds good. Umbrellas, protection, concern for the protection and good outcomes of those under the authority, all these are laudable goals. But the substance is wrong because the interpretation is wrong, and the result is damage to children you sought to raise into productive and healthy Christ-loving people. Disagreement with an authority is not rebellion. People in authority are just as prone to sin and wrong as people under authority. Gothard makes no allowance for this fact, and so when a father or a pastor who subscribes to his authoritarian ideas finds themselves struggling with sin, they have no mechanism for coping with it, and the sin, unchecked by counselors or wisdom, and in the absence of real grace, explodes into horrible things.
If disagreement with an authority were sin, Jesus, remaining in the temple after the passover while his parents (his authorities) began the trip home unknowingly without him, would have been sinning. We know that Jesus did not sin. Not ever. And yet Gothard even uses the story in Luke 2 as proof of his teachings, ignoring the obvious problems with that specific story. Authoritarian control is a way to get people to obey on the outside, but it does nothing about the heart issue, and this concern for the outside is apparent over and over in the IBLP and ATI ministries, even despite Gothard’s apparent focus on the inner “character qualities”.
Gothard’s view of grace is wrong, and his authoritarian teachings magnify sin, destroy family relationships, and are completely unbiblical. These two key aspects of his teachings are used to support his works-based message of salvation and his absolute control over all aspects of his ministry and the lives of those inside it.
Yes, you have been deceived, but now you know just a small part of the truth. I urge you not to reject what you’ve learned because once you know, you can never really un-know, and the truth unheeded will fester and will not let you continue your life as it was in peace.
What do you do now?
Read more. This was just a taste of the depths of deception and depravity that surround Bill Gothard and his ministries. They are not shining examples of goodness and light, they are white washed sepulchers filled with dead bones.
The elders and pastor of Calvary Bible Church in Fort Worth Texas saw the teachings of Gothard and wrote a response and critique that you should read: A Call For Discernment.
The Midwest Christian Outreach has a long history of exhaustive research of Gothard’s teachings and is working together with a community of people coming out of IBLP and ATI to confront Mr Gothard under the instructions of 1 Timothy 5:20: Bill Gothard and the 1 Timothy Project.
Midwest Christian Outreach has also published a book-length compilation of all their research into and communication with Gothard, IBLP, and ATI titled, A Matter of Basic Principles.
Recovering Grace itself has a section of its site dedicated to addressing Gothard’s teachings. While not as scholarly as other critiques, it is an in-the-trenches level series that is worth looking into: Upon Further Review, Twisted Scriptures.
The Apologetics Index has a selection of linked articles for further study of the problems found in Gothard’s many teachings.
The Personal Freedom Outreach has a lengthy analysis and criticism of Gothard’s teachings, calling them Evolving Fadism.
All this was possible because people gave too much reverence and authority to a man, instead of to the Man he claimed to be teaching about. I remember hearing Bill say at the end of each of his seminars that we shouldn’t take his word for it, but that we should, like the Christians of Berea, verify these things for ourselves against the scripture. I, me, myself, I am guilty of not doing this. I, me, myself, I did not look up in the Bible to see if what Bill taught was right. I, me, myself, not my parents, ME. I did not follow the exhortation to be a Berean Christian. Me, a child of ATI parents, am guilty. I am grateful that God’s grace, nothing I have taken for myself but something that was given to me, showed me the way out. Showed me a way out of worshiping Gothard as an infallible hero of Christianity. Showed me a way out of the haughty conceit of being part of a “better way of life.” Showed me out of the pride and sinful failures that go along with trying to do it myself.
The worst thing you can do is nothing. Please do not continue on as you were before, but now in knowing collusion with a deceiver, placing yourself purposefully under the authority and teaching of a man who is not under authority himself, neither of man or God.
Thank you for trying so very hard to do what was right for us. Nothing will ever take that away or change that.
August 21, 2020
Some of the input from this article sounds like it came from Matt.S,but I don't know how much.So many good irrefutable points demanding a responsible acknowledgement of the truth."But wait," you say,"I was not deceived.There are people who are out to smear and slander God's anointed,and they are crawling out from the rocks of their own sin to do so."Fantastically contrived reasoning in which Gothard's rebuttals came like a bludgeoning mace.Forty years.What eventually happens when a disconnect should have been made and was not?What eventually happens when alliances with socially advantageous connections with supporters are made at the expense of hapless victims down the pyramid of the caste system,permanently marred by the teachings of tbe man and his fallen system?Betrayed by an "ideal" which only existed in Gothard's mind."The truth,unheeded will fester,and not let you continue your life as it was in peace".Thank you whoever you are for stirring these eloquent words of life,to renounce the passivity of being tied to a propped up sepulcher of death,made by the promoter of natural religion.
Well said. And just to clarify, if you mean this MatthewS, I am afraid I can take no credit for it but I applaud it with you :-)
Music2myear,
Thank you. As an ATI parent, I appreciate your gentleness towards us. I hope and pray other ATI parents will read this and stop treading down this death path.
It seems uunless you get close enough to the top, you don't easily comprehend the corruption happening via misuse of authority, which is via misuse of Scripture.
Yes, it looks good on top: candy-coated. But when you get close to the abusive leadership, you see the hollow inside. Dead. Selfish. Power hungry. Use people up and spit them out mentality.
May God use your testimony.
I am a former ATI father. People that I know have not been talking about Bill Gothard and what has happened. I felt it was time to speak out and give them a summary of the immorality and problems with Bill Gothard and his teachings.
The following is an excerpt of a letter I originally sent to our family and friends on January 12, 2015. "A Summary of the Immorality, Fraud and False Teachings of Bill Gothard"
Dear Family and Friends,
I have not heard much from many of you about the events that have been exposed over the past year about Bill Gothard and his organization. It is time to break the silence and tell you what I know and where we as a family stand. If any of you, years ago, had seen some of the things that I am going to share with you, I wish you would have warned us about them. Silence allows sin and false teachings to continue and many to be defiled by them. It is important that sexual abuse, false teachings, and deceptions be exposed to the light so that others are not deceived and harmed. Jesus has warned us that in the end times: “Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3:13) We thought it would not happen to us—to be deceived—but it did.
I am grieved that I was so easily deceived by a false teacher. I have had to repent and apologize to my family for leading them in the false teachings of Bill Gothard, the conservative homeschool model, and their courtship model...
...God likens people to sheep. There are many similarities between people and sheep including this one of having “the wool pulled over one’s eyes”. When we were shearing sheep, one of the guys took a sheep that he had just finishing shearing. She was relaxed from the shearing process, and he gently laid her head down on the shearing board and covered her face with wool. She laid there, almost perfectly still with no one holding her for five to ten minutes while we went to get a camera and took pictures of her. It is not natural for a sheep to lie still in that position with no one holding them. The instant the wool was removed from her eyes, she jumped up and ran off. The same is true of us as people. When we have “the wool pulled over our eyes” we willingly submit to the teachings and bondage that others place us under. Others looking on wonder why such intelligent people would willingly believe that teaching, or allow someone to put them under unnecessary bondage and they not reject false teaching or the bondage. The people with the wool over their eyes have been rendered helpless and need to have someone help them by removing the wool from their eyes and showing them God’s truth. God says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6
As I found out the following things, the “wool” was removed from my eyes and I could see the error for what it really was. Yes, we all knew that Bill Gothard’s theology and Biblical application was inaccurate and stretched in places, but we gave him the benefit of the doubt because he appeared to be such a Godly man, like we have given the benefit of the doubt to many others who have differing interpretations or applications in some areas than what we do...
To read the full letter http://www.biblicalresearchreports.com/Bill-Gothard-Fraud.php
" When we were shearing sheep, one of the guys took a sheep that he had just finishing shearing. She was relaxed from the shearing process, and he gently laid her head down on the shearing board and covered her face with wool. She laid there, almost perfectly still with no one holding her for five to ten minutes while we went to get a camera and took pictures of her. It is not natural for a sheep to lie still in that position with no one holding them. The instant the wool was removed from her eyes, she jumped up and ran off."
Wow, such a sad but true image.
Matt S.
the wool picture is awesome! Just like a blanket.
I put one on my dog the other day, and he just laid there, not knowing he could move if he wanted to.
I think that too often, people feel a "smothering" comfort in having that wool over their eyes, not knowing that the supposed comfort feeling is the seductive spirit of satan trying to lead people into imprisonment of mind.
I have found that those who come out of ATI have varied responses. Some repentant and grieved at how it's hurt their families, other try to say that they didn't get affected, although their actions indicate they follow Gothard very well - sadly.
I kind of see a polar affect. Those who repent, grow, learn, apologize, and are able to learn how to deal with real people, flawed people.
Those who don't repent, but try to say they have come out of ATI unscathed, or weren't really affected, are the more dangerous ones than even those still in ATI.
They think they are even more innocent than even Bill would think they are.
It's sad...and some others, have totally turned from their faith in Christ - even though they might still go to church, or do ministry - they do it, because it either pays the bills, or keeps up an image.
Gothard and men like him are the tools of satan to pull the wool over people's eyes, and the wolves work hard to do that.
Gothard is a wolf...and maybe always has been.
I've heard people say he was ok at first. I propose - no.
That the "works" mindset or "behavior" modification thinking and secular mindset overall, was there all along. It just grew and grew, and became more and more enticing and pulling people into it's entanglements.
I find it interesting how people react when they start waking up.
As I said, some repent, apologize and try to change, but...others, still try to cover up, that they failed by following Gothard, and yet then again do the cover up, just in different ways.
So Gothard or not, works, and cover ups are always...not going to lead people into true freedom in Christ.
You Sheep analogy was very much like what I was seeing this week with my dog's response to a blanket.
I am grateful that I can move past all that, and gain hope, but I see others who just can't admit that Gothard was just bad news..always, or that others will keep trying to say "he was ok, but we just didn't buy it hook line and sinker".
So they would be called the "liberal Gothardites" maybe? JK.
But...in watching the varied responses to Gothard's exposure, I think image based people will still not want to admit they were deceived or they will still try to cover up, because...some people maybe will never admit they were wrong, possibly ever.
But me, well, I've lived having seen how Gothard ruined families and lives, and feel bad about how some of what I bit into affected my own and the ramifications of that.
Esp. since I'm "single" likely due to Gothard, yet I also know God could have overridden that, should He have wanted to.
But...I do know that...you can't un-impregnate someone, a baby does result. Thus, when sin happens, it does change our path, and I am maybe single for the rest of my life, since...I bit into his "defraud" lies when I was a young adult. :(
But I know in Christ I am loved and He will still bring purpose into my life, marraige or not.
I just grieve for those who think marraige and sex are the "saviour" as that was basically Gothards' focus on just about everything. Bleh.
I liked this article.
Just saw your comment Matt S., and I could totally relate to it, since it was like reading my blanket story, I happened upon this week with my own dog.
Thanks for commenting.
Happy Joy Joy,
IMso apprecite your thoughtful insights.
I must say God saw us going into ATI or being raised in it. His purpose for us doesn't change, sin or no sin. (What, no sin? Ha impossible). He knows we are sinners, born into sin, a tendency towards sin. It is all HIM in redeeming us and making our lives glorify Him and productive and enjoyable. God created us out of His good pleasure and he still takes pleasure in us, broken and all. It's the only way we come, broken. God never desired for Him to love us in our perfect state. No, He desired relationship. That's the point, it's the reason we have been created. Relationship. Yes sin got in the way but it's the side point of our existence. God loves us no matter what, His love and purpose for us is not conditional on us, that is a laughing matter. God loves us warts, sin and all. He has written our names in the palm of His hand, His thoughts of us are more than the sands of the sea, and those thoughts, are good thoughts, thoughts to give us a hope and a future. God LOVES relationships, married ones too. So don't think anything you have done would ruin that. God already knows where you are and has plans to bless you so the nations will know HE is your God.
Happy Joy Joy and Sue, your comments mean a lot to me. Bless you.
Wow, that was a good summary, Myron. I read it from your website.
You made a good point about Gothard parading his secretary sister around as a token of his chastity. I remember hearing that myself.
I don't want to pull away from the main article here- very moving and well written. Totally agree as a former student.
I do have a couple of comments regarding Myron's letter.
I have been to Bill's "office" at HQ on several occasions. It is a stand alone building, from what I remember. Does this strike anyone else as odd? Why wasn't the office in the Production Center? Has this been addressed? I think it is situated in a fairly secluded spot in a grassy field with a long driveway. I remember big windows too. "Oh but the big windows and open field gave him accountability." Actually, they would help him see any headlights coming after dark
I tried getting into the websight stated by Myron and could not do so,that is at first.Then I got on.I'm thankful for his effort,and thankful to have read of the totality of his darkness.As far as I'm concerned there can be no rebuttal,only calculated denial and coverups.
So did you get any response? I find it strange too that nobody wants to talk about it.
Myron,
What a very well put together letter. It was the right thing for you to send this to family and friends. I wish that more would follow your lead and do the same.
I, too, have noticed that my IBLP/ATI friends rarely really talk about it. I'm not sure if they have been told not to discuss it or if it is just kind of awkward for them to do so. What I have heard is not encouraging. Some believe the women are all lying and it is a big conspiracy to take down a godly man. Others acknowledge his sin, but take the position that it just shows that he is human and it does nothing to discredit his teachings. You are correct in your letter in that it is not just his behavior, but also that the entire organization was built on false teaching and sin. You can't really do anything to salvage an organization that was built on this foundation.
Kevin,
I think your observation is correct. Possibly that they don't talk because within their own personal circles, there is an unspoken "don't talk about it" moreso than a spoken one though.
I've seen several women who were VERY outspoken and almost free from Gothard, they spoke up for a while, then..whoosh, went silent. I think the fear of...repercussions is what made them stop.
Meaning, their circle of friends holds tightly that Gothard was ok - at some time, even if he went "radical" later.
I am probably one of the few who has gone full hog against Gothard, and not afraid to say it, and so glad I'm freed from that world! And I am very willing to speak on it, and against Gothard.
And those women who are thinking the women are lying...it's because in their own homes they've had to live with a lot of denial in the past about how Gothard affected their homes, but sadly that denial pattern carries into their current circumstances.
The denial shows up though, in different ways, sometimes resentment towards those who see the picture well, on how Gothard decieved them, and still does though maybe not via ATI, but the thought patterns.
What I've seen is that when people go silent after having at first been upset, it's like the story of the seed on the thorns, and the cares of this world, choke out the person who at first recieved the message of the good news with gladness, but now, it's a choked out message, because, it would also mean, standing up against likely a big group of friends, and losing those friends.
I've lost some, and even a couple friends who think they are "out" of the Gothard world.
Some of my college friends, still can't see the light. :(
Some of the present day ex-Gothardites, will never admit what messed them up, that's just because...sometimes protecting the family is more important than being honest with self. It's a wierd form of "love".
The movie "Arbitrage" has a plot that I think many of the Gothard followers live out, to supposedly "protect family", but I think it ends up separating family members and the closeness is gone, since all of the trust has been gone, from years of "hiding" a story, or years of propogating an image. This is why the "image" based Christianity is so hard to overcome...it means...swallowing a lot of pride, and image.
I was sad at the ending of the movie because...it made me think of many families that do the same thing, but it ends up polarizing a family, even though they are doing all they can to "protect" an image.
I think Chuck Colson is a great example of coming clean. And the Lord uses Him to reach others in prison, because of his own prison experience after political problems.
Gothard followers have a lot to lose when departing from his "world"...the tight knit communities work hard to "save and protect" not only image but relationships, sadly though I see divorces and blaming others for the "fallouts" using "they were innocent" or "it was just too much work"....often that is what is becoming a pattern. :(
So...that is why I think many seldom talk...they still live in fear, even though they might think they have moved out of Gothard's world. Sure, they ATI presence or the meetings or events are no longer attended, but the thinking patterns are not yet gone.
And those who love those still stuck in that world, are often chastised for speaking up against Gothard, or excorcized/excommunicated - aka via either divorce, or total shunning - though supposedly they don't live like Gothard says?
So...that's what I think..and I'm a woman, but have seen how Gothard's teachings have totally destroyed hearts, and those hearts are so deeply wounded, they may not see the light of day for years, living in the darkness of a closed world, even though still serving the Lord.
I've been focusing on being VERY honest with myself, and letting that be my guide, not some "fear" of losing friends or family.
And well, it's actually brought good things out, though definitely not as I expected those good things to happen.
But God works for Good! but often not as we think He will.
Here is another thought about why some people don't want to talk about "it"-they want to move on. I had a lot of Gothard in my teen-age/early college years through my fundamentalist church. Thankfully, although young, I had enough discernment to understand that I didn't want to live that kind of lifestyle. Once I tossed Gothard, I was done, and really didn't think much about him again until the most recent of the many scandals.
I was very involved in a church in a small town where the pastor fell into major sexual sin. After the fallout had settled, I would run into former members. At first, we talked a lot about what happened. Later, we just realized that, although some very bad things happened with this guy, life would go on and we had to decide how we would go on.
There is a healthy aspect to saying, "This happened, it wasn't good. I may need help to deal with_______in my life. But, I determine to move on, trusting in God's will and grace, and asking for His wisdom to not fall into such a trap again."
We all end up moving on at some times in our lives, and sometimes we "move on" several times. I believe that God's grace is sufficient for every need, and He has certainly demonstrated his sufficiency in my life more times than I count. As I "move on," I realize more and more that I am learning to trust Him more, and although I appreciate the spiritual leaders in my life, that they are saved sinners, just like me.
http://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2014/10/12/bill-gothards-new-programministry-total-success-power-teams/
Bill Gothard's new ministry. Read the article. Same old Bill. Same old lies. We ought to thank Bill for proving to everyone -- as if we needed it -- that there isn't a shred of repentance in him. And, I might add, if Gothard was deemed disqualified and unfit for leadership at IBLP, why does he feel free to do this? My guess is that he will simply call it something other than leadership.
This makes for an interesting discussion regarding intellectual property, given that some of the same photos IBLP used in the past are used here also.
So this means one of three things:
1. Gothard owns all intellectual property rights to whatever he used in IBLP, and simply took it with him to his new shop, leaving IBLP with little or nothing of its own.
2. Gothard stole IBLP's intellectual property, knowing that IBLP will never sue him (they've taught for so long that Christians should not sue each other).
3. IBLP is letting Gothard use its material either a) because they're about to fold or b) as part of a giant shell game to reorganize IBLP under a new name with Gothard as its leader.
I'll take door 3-b for the win Mark.
A Matter of Basic Principles is an interesting book. I read it after i left ITC. I found a lot of it inaccurate.... the theology in particular. But the real million dollar question is- if reconciliation takes place, or if some of the information is proved inaccurate, will the authors print a retraction?
Hi Ruth,
You ask a question that can only be answered by the authors, so I'll assume you are just looking for opinions. I haven't read the book, but I am long familiar with IBLP/ATIA so here's my personal opinion.
A retraction will never be published because the sun will refuse to rise and hell will freeze over on that day when the narcissistic lying shyster finds Jesus and wriggles free of his millstone to genuinely reconcile with his victims.
True that, Joe!
Not to mention that "Ruth" (who is not "Ruth," nor even Alfred, but someone who has some nerve to use this pseudonym) is fixated on retraction, which would only be appropriate in the case of publication of false information. No amount of reconciliation has ANYthing to do with whether the information already published is accurate or not. I believe the accuracy has been established through proper publishing protocols and such, and probably to an even larger extent than required. I believe there are plenty of opportunities for apologies, if not "reconciliations." I believe there is a diminishing opportunity for repentance and brokenness. There just seems to be absolutely no indication that these will ever occur.
Look again. The real questions here are, "If I make up with people (not necessarily accept responsibility, you know), will y'all tell people that you were all wrong about me, and that I'm really okay? If I can't get anything out of it, why should I go to the trouble to make it look like I did anything wrong?"
Who's the only person that's worth a million to?
Just one more little slip by the master. That, and what Joe said, too.