The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, Chapter 10: “You Can Trust Me”
We continue our Thursday series blogging through “The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse.” The first post in the series is here.
Chapter ten continues the consideration about leaders in spiritually abusive systems with a discussion about trust. In Matthew 23, Jesus raises two problems with the religious leaders of his day: double life (Matthew 23:3) and double talk (Matthew 23:16–18).
The Double Life of False Spiritual Leaders
False spiritual leaders follow different rules than they lay on everyone else. Jesus told his followers to “do and observe” what the false spiritual leaders said but not to follow the example of their actions (Matthew 23:3). Essentially, do as they say, not as they do. This may seem surprising: why listen to a false leader at all?
Many ATI students hear “don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater” so many times that they grow weary of hearing it. This platitude can be a tactic used by someone’s supporters to sweep problems under the rug. However, there is an important truth: even false, hypocritical leaders probably teach some things that are in line with God’s truth, even if they fail to walk what they talk. It is probably to be expected that there will be a bit of a pendulum swing when we finally realize that the false teachers are hypocrites who say one thing and do another. Some people conclude that the whole thing has been a lie — God, the Bible, Christianity, the whole thing — and they throw it all out. However, God’s Word is good, even though it has been mishandled by false teachers. It is in our own best interest not to go so far overboard that we throw out God’s Word along with the hypocrisy.
The authors make a good point that many people who end up leading a double life did not start out intending to do so. In fact, some people may have pursued being in ministry because they thought it would help them finally conquer some struggle they have had for years. However, they put themselves in a double bind when they try to turn from a sin by using behaviors that instead push them into repeating the sin.
In light of a recent news story about ultra-orthodox Jewish men using blurry goggles to prevent them from looking at women, the discussion from William Barclay seems particularly apropos. Barclay referred to a group of “bruised and bleeding” Pharisees who would wear hoods over their heads to prevent them from lusting, with the side effect of crashing into walls and down stairs.
The problem is that external controls such as these do not change the heart. Jesus said the Pharisees were washing the outside of the cup but failing to clean the inside. Colossians 2:20–23 tells us that rules like “do not touch” and “do not taste” may have an appearance of wisdom but they end up being worthless in the war against fleshly indulgence. What is needed is heart change; what is in the heart will eventually come out.
Question for discussion: This could stir some of us up, and even trigger some of us, but what is it about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater? What is the difference between a valid caution using this image and someone using it in a problematic way?
What Is Our Only Hope?
Our hope is not to put on a brave face and try harder. Just as we admitted that we could not save ourselves and asked God for his free gift which we did not earn (Ephesians 2:8–9), so we cannot sanctify ourselves. Rather than putting a lid on it and hiding it, true change calls for being humble and bringing our failures into the light, mourning them (“blessed are those who mourn”), and admitting we can’t do it on our own. God wants us to bring our fears, failures, and sins to him, in the light, so he can truly heal us. Keeping up appearances is like washing the outside of the cup only. It takes integrity and humility to address the inside.
There is a pattern described here that is worth reading. It has to do with realizing that we cannot save ourselves and we cannot sanctify ourselves. What then is our only hope? The answer appears on page 125. I point you to that page in order to save myself typing the whole thing out!
Double-Talk
In Matthew 23:16–18, Jesus condemned the Pharisees for making crooked oaths. They would swear by the Temple to leave themselves wiggle room but swear by the gold in the Temple if they really meant it. Abusive leaders will always give you the “right” answer, even if it isn’t the “real” answer. They talk a good talk and it always sounds right, but you start to get a vague sense that they are not completely on the level with you. This is double-talk.
You Can’t Seem to Ask the Question Right
Along with double-talk is the seeming inability to ask the question right in order to get a straight answer. A painfully realistic example of trying to get a straight answer is provided. It goes something like this:
“You were asked to leave the church for sexually molesting a teenager. Have you gotten counseling?”
“Yes” is the reply. “I’ve been seeing someone for several months.”
“Do they know how to address sexual issues?”
“Oh yes, they have had quite a bit of training.”
“So this person is a counselor?”
“You mean a real counselor?”
“Yes. Are they a counselor trained in sexual issues?”
“Well no, not really — it’s a pastor. But he’s read a lot of books. You know, I don’t appreciate the way you’re ‘drilling’ for answers.”
Double-talk is a temptation for all of us when we want to look good. But when we give the “right” answer that is not the “real” answer, we tell a lie.
This can create real damage. If someone relaxes and trusts you in the belief that you are safe, and then they find you have not been straight with them, they may have a very difficult time trusting others in the future.
It is not necessary for us to do this to ourselves. We do not always need to look good and give the “right” answers. It can be scary but liberating to realize that we can lay down the mask, be honest, and admit that we are sorry, or that we don’t know, or that we are tired or need help.
Personal Interaction
I find my thoughts running to issues of parenting. There is something about the combination of double-talk and “you can’t seem to ask the question right” that definitely resonated for me. I have felt that way with a few different religious leaders and was later proven right in the end. As a personal admission, I felt that way a lot as a kid with my dad. Never truly getting the straight answer, never being able to ask the question right. I think that there is an issue of power at work here. Who is in control? It shows respect to honor someone’s question with a straight answer. Perhaps that is too threatening for some who grasp power. Jesus talked about how being great in his kingdom meant being a servant, as opposed to grasping for power. It’s not that parents should not be fully in charge as parents — they should. Now that I am a parent myself, I think our kids want the security of us being their parents, not just their buddies. But in that process of being parents, I think it is incumbent on us to model servant leadership.
Good Quotes
Trust is not something that can be demanded or legislated. It is gained or lost on the basis of integrity and honesty. (p. 121)
If your method of dealing with sin is to tighten down the lid, put on an “in control” face, and polish the outside of the cup, it may work for a while. But eventually what’s on the inside will explode to the surface. When it does, there will be casualties everywhere — especially if you’re in ministry. (p. 124)
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Good Article. You are right about being sick of hearing, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water." I think this phrase is mostly used to shame us out of changing our minds or thinking critically. It usually means, "You can't go judging Gothard just because he got a few things wrong. He still teaches lots of good things like respecting your parents." I told my husband the other day after I heard this phrase yet again that that poor baby isn't in bath water; it's swimming in sewage! If you don't rescue that thing pretty quick it's gonna die anyways. I'm only bathing my "baby" in healthy clean water if I can help it, thank you very much.
Lauren, that was very succinct! I love that, I'm going to use that from now on! Sewage indeed!
Lauren - I break out into hives over that statement myself. Hang in there - next week there will be a surprising story the opposite direction.
If I had a dollar for every time someone commented "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" on this very site, I'd be rich.
You know, I wonder what the response would be from both ATI followers, and ex-ATI, if Bill Gothard would just publicly acknowledge the horrible wrongs his program has committed and endorsed, the lives he has ruined by his personal and direct mishandling of counseling situations, etc.. and apologized deeply and profusely, with true humility, would people believe him? Accept the apology?
I think I would absolutely accept the apology, but wait to see what actions he takes to mend, fix, and resolve the problems, before thinking well of him again. We ought to forgive, regardless of whether or not our offender ever repents, but in this case, to trust again would be the height of foolishness. 'Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.'
Also, if he took such actions, would his loyal and devoted followers cease and desist? Considering the amount of hypocrisy that I know I've witnessed and been apart of, he could lose many followers who would suddenly realize, 'I always knew there was something fishy about ATI' etc... OR, 'well his teachings are still good, never mind that I have to put a blindfold on in order to ignore the fact that my family is in shambles and my children want nothing to do with me because I refuse to humble myself...'
Sorry for my musings, my thoughts are tumbling all over the place in my head, I guess I just really long for reconciliation and for my family to recover and heal, and become whole again.
If bill would humble himself and admit where he has been wrong, and very HUMBLY mean it---just think of what that would do for dozens, if not hundreds, if not maybe thousands of people. HE DOES NOT have all the final answers---he is human, is sinful (1 Jn. 1:8) and is not a man that is open to God's leading.
You pretty much summed it up.
Matthew, one big problem with "not throwing the baby out with the bathwater" is when people are so steeped in so many falsehoods over their minds and strangleholds over their behavior, is it becomes nearly impossible to figure out what is "baby" and what is "bathwater."
Regarding Heather's comment, I agree, repentance would be wonderful. If Gothard were open to correction, this blog wouldn't exist. We all make mistakes, and we all sin against other people. We need to repent of our mistakes in teaching, and repent of our sins against others. *We*, when we sin, by false teaching or by lording it over people, are responsible for throwing our *own* bathwater out. Then other people won't have to, and won't have to live in confusion.
Gothard has no history of accepting correction from people who disagree with him and getting rid of his own bathwater. Rather, his tactic has been to destroy the respective characters of people who try to hold him accountable.
Many people do throw the baby out with the bathwater, it seems, anyway. They want nothing to do with the claims of Christ, or of being around Christians, after leaving the clutches of false teaching and unbiblical authoritarian systems. Sad.
Well said, Lynn, and I agree with you on each point
Someone opined that Gothard has said some unique and good things: the unique things aren't good and the good things aren't unique. For me, "baby and bathwater" does not mean I should try to salvage anything from Gothardism. I see it as a failed experiment, shot all to pieces by Galatians 3, Colossians 2, and the rest of the NT, honestly. Once upon a time, there was no way to test his wildly optimistic claims against reality. The results are in and it failed. I do believe in hanging on to God's grace and truth as we move forward but I don't think there is much to be gained from trying to work from the inside out of Gothardism to figure those things out. I don't think there is much of a baby in Gothardism to save but I needn't toss out my entire Christian faith with it; in fact, I'm more deeply committed to that now than ever.
fwiw, Someone else wrote about the pendulum swing here: https://www.recoveringgrace.org/2012/08/as-the-pendulum-swings/
what those people have to remember about the baby that they threw out with the bathwater is this...
Many people claim to do things in the name of God or Jesus but that does not mean He ever told them to do it.
If I were to say " I support Obama. I am going to find out who is not voting for him and so something mean to them." Word gets back to Obama about me doing mean things to those who are not voting for him and he says..." I don't know that person and and I certainly never told them to do mean things to them no matter how they vote."
The thing is that people will not hold it against Obama for what I did in his name. They will blame me and only me for my actions.
Uh...your comment pretty much confused me. What exactly are you saying?
I am a public school teacher- I am supposed to confuse my students!
What I meant was- just because you put a turd in the cookie jar does not make it a cookie.
Just because people say they do something in the name of God does not mean God told them to do so.
But all of christianity gets the black eye when some yahoo does something stupid in the name of God or claims God told him to do it but people will be less likely to blame obama for people doing stuff in his name that he never told them to do.
ok? Now study hard, test on Friday!!!
OK. So what is the baby and waht is the bath water...and how does this saying tie into Christianity/Obama/etc.?
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